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  •  Actually, the quote wasn't from Bush (none / 0)

    But I happen to agree with you, that this is a very important elephant.  But it is, indeed, political suicide to admit that it exists.

    How ready are the American people to deal with the at-home consequences of a radical change in international policy?

    I will attempt to answer that with another question:  How many people still don't believe that we went to war with Iraq to protect the American way of life?

    Know what happens if America can't secure a steady oil supply?

    "Dude, you're getting a depression."

    Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. --Friedrich Nietzsche (Beyond Good and Evil)

    by perspicio on Thu Oct 21, 2004 at 10:29:54 PM PDT

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    •  No. You're right, but its difficult not to suspect (none / 0)

      that this is Mr. Bush's thinking as well. The Democrats need credible surrogates to start talking up a different policy. They can be from well outside the beltway, but the fact is that the only real alternatives to neoconservativism and liberal internationalism are coming from the libertarians and from the paleocons. Badnarik is the only candidate this year who's made an issue of empire. Where's the left on this question? The new left of the late 60s and early 70s was obsessed with the issue of empire, and were about 30-40 years ahead of their time. They all seem to have either become mainstream liberals or in rare cases neocons, but as much as Democrats arguably didn't need those voices then, they need them now. America needs them now.

      "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S Thompson

      by spot on Thu Oct 21, 2004 at 10:47:57 PM PDT

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